Doubts About Verbatim DVD Lifespan
 

I bought a pin pack of 25 units DVD-R 16x verbatim azo ID: MCC03RG20, my dvd drive is a: ATAPI drive liteon iHAS122 F Firmware EL06

I did the burning of 4 discs in speed 6x using ImgBurn, I did imgburn reading scan (Verify) and no problem found, I did the test of read scan of Nero DiscSpeed ​​5 and 100% good

in Nero DiscSpeed ​​scan of the four discs presented a PIF value variation 48-107 for the same file burned on four discs, it is very strange because it comes with the same file burned on 4 discs this others files values pif variantion 0-4, pie variation 53-201

besides the 4 discs burned with my important files, I have another 3 or 4 to test, it is possible I test a number of discs and have a certainty and a parameter that all 25 discs are identical or similar in quality or I'll have to test jitter , pie, pie etc for all 25 disks to know that the pin is good and will store my files for many years? how does it work? I burned the disc and want them to be 100% read for many years

this 4 discs is reliable and secure for long-term storage files?

IMO nothing is good for long term storage, With todays technology I've gotten in the habit of doing this

zipping/raring/7zip (depending on size)
password protect it with a very strong pw (you can get one through strongpasswordgenerator)
then upload to google drive, amazon cloud, burn to dvd

no doubt my question, please respond

Nothing last forever make multiple copies. Or back it all up to a portable Hard Drive or Flash drive.

What is the useful life expectancy in years for store all files burned correctly for future of my VERBATIM DVD-R 16x 4.7GB AZO ID: MCC 03RG20 stored inside black case dvd case inside box temperatures: day 31ºC, afternoon 32-36ºC, night 32ºC humidity 40% -52 % Day, afternoon, night (not rainy season)? Mdisc is the best option under these conditions?

Well I still have discs in plain sleeves from 2005 that still play and burn fine. I live in ohio temperatures varies up and down constantly. However... I were to do it differently I would have backed everything up on a hard drive , put it in anti static bag , inside of nice seal able plastic tote and leave it a alone until I needed to burn a copy off. Ultimately proper storage and temperatures ( controlled environment) no reason why it wouldn't last for at least 5-10 years , by then it will become obsolete because dvds are being phased out like vhs everything now is stream video or Media players with USB , SD , and HD ) . Just keep in mind no matter what medium you use . You can not predict the exact life expectancy of media or electronic device. I know its not the answer you re looking for but there is no exact answer to this.

I need to know of an approximate life expectancy of the DVD-R 16x Verbatim AZO MCC 03RG20 for me to make a new copy before the data disappears, I stored inside black case dvd case inside box temperatures: day 31ºC, afternoon 32-36ºC, night 32ºC Humidity 40% -52% Day, afternoon, night (not rainy season), are these conditions bad or good to preserve the disc in the long term?

That sounds like something LS can answer.

I await the reply from Lordsmurf

Can I? Yes.
Do I want to? No, not really.

I've answered here many times: http://www.digitalFAQ.com/forum/media
This person is known there as 'gamemaniaco'.

If he wants random numbers, here's some:
- 3.14159
- 42
- OICU812
- 1234567890

Nobody can answer his questions. He wants exact math that cannot exist. Based on all knowledge, about all optical media, the likely answer is that it will last as long as VHS (35-65 years). It may be longer, it may be somewhat shorter (but probably not by much).

Environmental conditions pay a huge part. When you live in Brazil (a rain forest), in non-controlled temperatures, all bets are off. Verbatim is the best media. So it has the best chance of surviving a DVD media apocalypse.

32-36ºC = 89-96 F. That's hot as hell. Ideal media conditions are 80 max, preferably in the 60s-70s with low humidity. I will say this: I used to store CDs in my car (for about 15-20 years), and inside-a-car Texas heat beats Brazil heat. Those discs are fine. Given that DVD is better than CD in some important ways, the burned DVDs should last at least 20, if not more. I'd say 35 is a good estimate.

1) Thank you friend Lordsmurf for the answer before I asked about the philips media but today I bought the media indicated by you dvd-r 16x verbatim azo id MCC 03RG20
1) I need to clarify these doubts. Lordsmurf for the answer before I asked about the philips media but today I bought the media indicated by you dvd-r 16x verbatim azo id MCC 03RG20

With this verbatim I do not want exact math but only approximate math to make a new backup transfer files on a new disk
I mentioned that my conditions are: morning 31ºC, afternoon 32 to 36ºC, night 32ºC humidity 40% to 52% (no rain station) At times in the rainy months it is cold (28, 29ºC) and humid
I keep the discs in black case dvd and the cases I keep inside of boxes, in my storage conditions what would be the useful life expectancy in Years that this disk resists before dying? I know that the errors are increasing and the dye degrading I learned from you

doubts in my conditions

2) the expected of life expectancy of 16x dvd-r counted after manufacture or after burning? In dvd-r media virgins stored and sealed dye and reflective layer degrade? I asked why I burned 5 media and there are still 20 virgin media stored on the pin

3) I did the correct to have low jitter, low PIE, low PIF or no? I burned the files in Verbatim DVD-R AZO 16x ID: MCC 03RG20 in 6x speed minimum supported for drive?

4) For long-term DVD-R storage do I need to worry about jitter, PIE, PIF after burning the disc or should I be concerned about the quality of the media and the manufacturer? I burned my disks but I just did the Nero discSpeed Read Test and the result was 100% good, I did the Verify of ImgBurn and errors found 0

5) Verbatim says in 2 pdfs that the dvd-r disc of them has a durability of 60 years and in the other pdf says that it is 100 years at 25 ºC but I think it is a lie, what is your opinion Lordsmurf? Unfortunately I can not maintain these temperatures because I live in the Brazilian northeast and my storage conditions are the ones I mentioned above

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and I wanted say Optical I was not laughing at you. Just at the Hitchhikers Guide and musical reference he put in there lol ( DVD media apocalypse LS? I didn't think it would come to that :eek: [88])

if you are worried about heat conditions then why not back up online to the cloud? there are several companies to pick from and just don't use dvds

I do not trust servers
I would very much like Lordsmurf to answer all my 5 doubts above

Repeating yourself is starting to piss me off. Stop it. I can answer you, or clean up your mess, not both. Ask once, then wait for answers. Copy/paste over and over is irritating.

Verbatim is a manufacturer. They're not independent. They don't need to lie, just obfuscate the actual facts with cherry picked best-case data. Every company does it, which is why nobody trusts official company studies for anything (DVD media, medicines, etc).

60-100 probably is best-case.
I find 100 to be mostly bogus, and 60 more honest.

My research has shown 35-65, which would agree with their more realistic 60 number for best-case. That means lesser 35 is possible, especially when not stored at optimum. It may even be worse, but not the stupid 3-5 years nonsense as spouted by IBM. I'd bet at least 10 to 30 (half their reasonable max).

Also use hard drive, SSD/flash, and even online storage, if it's really important stuff.

PIE/PIE/jitter values can show how the disc is aging. If values look odd, copy the content to yet more media.

Test important discs annually.

Sorry Lordsmurf I did not want to irritate you, I need your help and I learn about optical media with you, sorry, I'll ask only once and wait

1) Do you cite values ​​that the dvd-r verbatim azo disc has a durability of 35-65 years but is your search done based on my storage conditions? You're saying that it has this durability under what storage conditions I'm not talking about conditions 25ºC-50% RH
I am talking about my conditions of a 16x DVD-R disc Verbatim AZO ID: MCC 03RG20 stored inside dvd case black, case inside box temperature and humidity: morning 31ºC, afternoon 32ºC-36ºC, night 32ºC humidity 40-56 % In months of rain the temperature is a little lower 28 ° C, 29 ° C and high humidity, these my conditions this dvd-r verbatim will have an expectation approximate of how many years? He will die fast?

2) in day I burned 4 DVD-R discs 16x Verbatim AZO MCC 03RG20 and I saved them but did not do the jitter, pie, pif test I did the discspeed Nero 5 read test 100% good, imgburn verify no errors, I have not checked jitter , Pie, pif on the 4 disks represents some risk for data loss?

3) What happens to the other 21 discs of my spindle verbatim azo mcc 03rg20? They are virgin discs but they will degrade the dye and die like the burned discs? Will not I be able to use them after 10 years or more to make new copies?

4) I burned all dvd-r discs 16x verbatim azo mcc 03rg20 at speed 6x (minimum supported by my drive), 6x is a good speed to have little errors?

5) I received an email from Verbatim Taiwan that they say the DVD-R 16x Verbatim AZO MCC 03RG20 has a life expectancy in general, 30 to 50 years depends on storing conditions (you have to keep it in dry environment ...). However, we recommend 5 to 10 years to get back up again, if it is possible. 25ºC +/- 5º, 55 +/- 5 RH%, Media stored in jewel case, not exposed direct sunlight or other UV, no scratches, no corrosive gas in air

Now there are 2 PDfs and a 1 email received, just want to know the truth and how would these useful life expectancy of the disk with my conditions that I mentioned that are unstable and greater than these conditions

Optical these are the exact same questions as above? dude...

I think these are realistic expectations especially if you are only using media for trading and not selling by the masses. I d accept this previous post and move on. The way you are coming off. I apologize If I m wrong. You are coming off as profiteer who is panicking over his money maker. Its great you want to learn as we all do for the video Master that is LS lol I cant see anything more he can add to this ? Also, You have to keep in mind there are other unforeseen things going on offline... he cant always answer right away...

He's overly cautious, and not a trader at all that I know of. He came here from digitalFAQ.com, which he found from Videohelp and MyCE(cdfreaks). VH/MyCE users chased him away. I think VH banned him. I'm not going to do that, but he starting to get on my nerves.

It's always a new (valid!!!) question among 4-5 repeated ones. It's the repeats that get him in trouble everywhere.

Saying "I don't understand" after an explanation is fine. Even I do that for some things (example: woodworking). But to ask the question again, which comes across as entirely ignoring the first answer, is rude.

He is learning about media. :) ... I just wish that he'd also learn some patience and tact.

I know cp32 has been on the receiving end of my dress-downs. See, I do it to others, too!

I'd say 15-30 years is a good estimate. About half the realistic lifetime of 35-65. The difference is your conditions are harsh. Likea GPS, you may need to recalculate this. Re-check a sampling every year. FYI, this is what I do!

You can only really know about degradation before loss by testing PIE, PIF and jitter. Once loss happens, there's no need to test with simple surface scan. It's too late. That problem is that most drives no longer support this. Locating a drive for this isn't something I want to help with. You need to do your own research. I prefer the BenQ 1620 and 1640 for DVD testing. That are 10-year drives, you won't find them new.

Unburned media ages slower than burned. I've burned PVC discs 10 years after the fact, and the values were still good. Not 100% optimal, but at least 90-95%. PVC was probably the best media ever made, 4x, longer ago discontinued.

No. The ideal burning speed is half. So 16x media is 8x or 12x. However, MCC is a bit better than average. Sometimes 4x-6x can yield better results. This is where testing comes into play. Testing for yourself, look at the results, make your judgment call.

Verbatim is useless, and MCC is who you need to check with. They give more realistic figures over email/phone than marketing. Their 30-50 is again simliar to my 35-65. And yours would be 15-30, with them seeming to suggest minimum 5-year testing cycles. I suggest annual.

The PDF are marketing documents. Disregard. Again, 15-30 ideal for you, test annually to see values. Remember to record values, so you can see if there are bad shifts or changes from years to year.

^ This time, you asked mostly all-new question. Not all, but mostly. :)

Lordsmurf thank you for answering my questions and sorry for my many questions

1 really my conditions are these and I have no way to change them, I thought of putting the average in a ventilated and little humid place but it is hotter and the afternoon the temperature can reach 34-36ºC, in my room is a Slightly less hot 30 to 32 ° C but at night the humidity is 65-67%, so the question is whether it is better or less high humidity or high temperature?, Are not included rainy seasons

2 is this estimate that you estimated from 35-65 years and is the same estimate of the verbatim dvd-r of 60 years of useful life is an estimate only at 25ºC 50% RH? Is it a real estimate under these storage conditions? Is that why my different conditions are not included in this estimate?

3 my drive is a liteon iHAS122 F firmware EL06 it has scan jitter, pie, pif, i just tested a burned media from my 25 dvd-r verbatim azo pin, the 1 media test serves as parameter to know that all Are other media looking good or bad? The other 4 burned media I did read test nero discspeed 5 100% good, in the 4 medias i test verify imgburn no errors found, I should worry about jitter, pie, pif of other burned media that I have not tested?

4 These media dvd-r verbatim virgins stops can i use them in the future 15 years or more? Or at that time the azo dye and reflective layer will be degraded and bad?

5 I burned the 4 discs dvd-r 16x verbatim azo in 6x with imgburn drive is liteon iHAS122 F firmware EL06, this 6x speed burn is bad and I will have to make new burnings? I thought the lowest speed possible was the best, 6x causes many errors and influences the reduction of the useful life expectancy of the disk? A burned 8x or 12x disc will last longer than a burned 6x disc?

6 I'm going to contact MCC but I've already emailed them and they do not respond, testing every 5 years is a long time and the disc can fail in this period? Is it really okay to try it once a year even at the risk of scratching the disc?

7 The test jitter, foot, pif with my drive and media burned at 6x when I burned I did not test these errors I only tested the read test of the speed nerodisc 5 and the verify option of imgburn and they were 100% good, I Kept the disks but the disks can be with bad jitter, foot, pif and 15-30 years of expectation may be lower?

8 The useful life of a burned disc is counted from the date of burning or from the date of manufacture of the discs and how long did it remain in the store?

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How many days in the media do you wait for Lordsmurf answers for the above 8 doubts?

It may be time to lock the thread...

1 I burned 4 Verbatim AZO DVD-R discs 16x ID: MCC03RG20 at 6x speed and tested Nero DiscSpeed ​​5> Read Test and the result was 4 discs 100% good I tested VERIFY from ImgBurn and in the errors found, I did not test the discs Jitter, PIE, PIF with my liteon drive iHAS122 F firmware EL06 I have not performed these tests is bad and the disks can die prematurely? In burning jitter, pie, pif are already high values? I stored the discs in dvds case black

2 blank discs (not burned) dvd-r 16x verbatim azo mcc 03rg20 under storage conditions as my storage condition constantly degrade and in the future 10 or more years will not be good for burning and long term storage?

3 you said that my storage conditions the disc will live well between 15-30 years, under conditions of temperature 25ºC 50% RH the disc will live between 35-65 years? How did you conduct these surveys and concluded that the numbers provided by verbatim (60, 100 years) are marketing?

3 great questions. :)

ImgBurn "verify" is known to be buggy, therefore useless. I never use it. I prefer to test in other ways -- scan disc, manual verification, and the jitter/PIE/PIF/PO scans.

Any disc can die. Understand that we're talking in statistics here, not absolutes. This is what I've done for years. For example, a Verbatim has a 95%+ success rate. That means up to 5 discs from a 100-disc spindle could be bad. That's the initial burn, not including latter errors. You have statistical outliers (which I also take into account for rankings), such as a spindle that is 100% good or only 90% or less good.

If you're using Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden, stats are on your side, in terms of getting a good disc. But that small % of bad discs is still there, and it's your job to find them via testing. You test immediately for burn failures, and later for degradation. Most people don't test at all, some only at initial stages. You're willingness to test periodically means that you're less likely to lose data.

Heat and humidity accelerate aging. So after 10-15 years, your discs may quickly nosedive. But by that time, we may have other technology for storage. For example, SSD cells are getting better. But in 10-15 years, we have a tech that nobody (outside of engineers in a lab) has yet imagined. If you were to ask somebody in 2001 what storage medium we'd be using in 2016, they'd give some screwy and wrong answers!

I've been studying optical media for many years now. There's many factors that lead to the personalized advice I've given you. Same for pointing out the bogus "marketing" nature of 60-100 years. (As an example, most of the century-long estimates gloss over bonding, and the study focused too much on dye degradation. But a disc is more than just dye. And no, I'm not explaining more. Sorry. That's getting too detailed for my time.)

It was a teaching moment. After being told to have patience, yet still being impatient, then the more you bother me, the more I'll ignore you. I learned that many year ago, from my best friend of 25+ years.

I hold everybody to high standard. You, me, the dumb redneck across the street. :p

1 Nero DiscSpeed ​​5> ScanDisc> read test is a good test to see if the disk and the burn was good or bad? I did this test on 4 dvd-r verbatim azo mcc 03rg20 and it's 100% good but that's an indication that jitter pie, pif are good and I do not need to test jitter, pie, pif today with the liteon drive iHAS122 F Firmware EL06?

2 before you said that my discs verbatim azo dvd-r 16 mcc 03rg20 has an expectation of 15-30 years now you say 10-15 years, what's the truth? Under my conditions morning 30-31ºC, afternoon 32-36ºC, night 32ºC humidity RH 40-56% (without rain), rain stacion rh high temp low

3 dvd + r double layer 8.5GB verbatim is good or bad for long term storage?

4 The useful life of a dvd-r disc 16x is counted from the manufacturing of it or the useful life of it is counted from the burning?

Please stop hitting quote. Hit reply. Only use quote when you need to quote specific sections, not the whole message.

Scandisc first, shows severe errors first. The PIE/jitter/etc must be interpreted, though they will halt on severe errors as well.

The 10-15 was from (apparently faulty!) memory. The earlier 15-30 was correct. Thanks for pointing out the discrepancy. Disregard 10-15.

DVD+R DL is not good for long-term storage. It's not much better than BD-R, which is also not archival. So, given the choice of DVD+R DL and BD-R, I'd go for BD-R due tpo extra space. Personally, I'd rather use HDD if going for less archival means of backup.

Again, backup policy is about multiple backups on multiple formats in multiple locations.

Shelf life is started from manufacturing date. Like bread or milk.

Sorry, no more time for questions today. :o

1 if my disk has too much error pie, pif, jitter the scan in Nero DiscSpeed ​​5> scandisc> READ TEST shows these errors as burning and reading error? If it does not show errors and this 100% good jitter, pie, pif are with acceptable values?http://www.tvpast.org/forum/images/cache/2016/11/1.gif

2 I wanted to burn 8.5gb in data for long term storage and I thought of dvd + r dl verbatim 8.5gb but you said it is not good and I do not have bluray drive for burning, because dvd dl no is good for long term storage?

3 mdisc and usb flash drive are better than dvd-r for long term storage? They do not have anything organic

I m suffering from Post Optic Stress Disorder :eek:[;^)]

opticalmediafan there are no real answers to your questions. We have now all gone over this with you.

points we've made that you've missed countless times

1. There is no legit 110% secure backup for your data. No matter what brand of dvd you use it isn't going to matter. if a dvd is gonna fail, it is going to fail period.

2. You have different conditions then everyone else. We can't replicate what your conditions are. YOU can figure it out by trail and error if you really want to.

3. Again there are no real answer for long term storage. As I said back on reply 1, using a combination is the only real way to back your stuff up and even that is decent at best. Nothing is meant to last forever

4. Please let this thread die, LS has answered everything he can for you along with countless others. Stop beating the dead horse. You've gotten your answers, that is as good as it is going to get.

These statements I already knew and I knew

I want Lordsmurf to answer my 3 questions above

1. yes
2. no
3. no

@everybody: Remember to always keep this site friendly. ;)

1 did you see the photo of the nero disc speed read test? If nero discspeed 5 read test is 100% good this errors jitter, pie, pif errors can present high troubling values for long term storage or jitter, pie, pif are low values if read test 100% good? Read test of nero discspeed 5 takes into consideration jitter, pie, pif?

2 you said that dvd 8.5gb dl is bad for long term storage because it is bad for this purpose even being dvd verbatim dl?

3 Why are mdisc and usb flash drives not reliable for long term storage? They do not have anything organic

1. ScanDisc not PIF/PIE/jitter,
2. Bad.
3. Organic vs. inorganic only part of an arguments. Like me saying "It's green." Now you're wondering WTF is green? Exactly.

1 A DVD-R disc with Nero DiscSpeed 5> ScanDis> Read Test with test 100% good can be a bad disk and not reliable burned disk because it does not show and does not interpret jitter, PIE, PIF errors during Scan?

2 Which media do you recommend for long-term storage of files larger than 4.7GB?

3 Mdisc is marketing and inferior to dvd-r verbatim azo?

1. No. PIE/PIF/jitter gives signs of discs condition. It's not binary. It shows details. Scandisc is binary, pass/fail. If scandisc is bad, it's too late to do anything about it. If PIE/PIF/jitter is faltering, but the disc isn't yet bad, there's time to salvage it.

2. Nothing optical. DVD+R DL and BD-R are both unreliable.

3. It's complicated. For you, yes, not better. Stick with Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden.

1 If PIE / PIF / Jitter is bad the scan read test of nero disc speed 5 will be 100% good green or the result of the read test of discspeed 5 will be poor 98%, 70%, 60% ...?

2 Can I use 2 4.7GB DVD-R discs to save these larger files? Is dvd-r 4.7gb reliable and safe for long term storage?

3 What is the degradation rate of a virgin (burned) dvd-r stored in pin in my condition after 10 or more years? Will not be a good disk to make new copies?

I get paid for work.
I have a hobby for fun.
At this point in time, your questions are neither.

I've entertained you for months now. This thread alone has gone on for two pages. At this time, I'm done. I can't be your personal encyclopedia for burning knowledge -- and for the succinct reason that I'm now repeating myself.

For best burning results:
1. Use Verbatim single-layer DVD-R or DVD+R
2. Test after burning for errors. ScanDisc shows pass/fail, more complex PIE/PIF/jitter can show nuances in disc/drive conditions. (It's a complex process, and results must be re-checked against multiple drives to eliminate the possibility of drive causing skewed results. Then all results interpreted.)
3. Re-test every few years minimum. Move faulty-disc data to a new storage media.
4. In 15-30 years, by the time your discs start to falter, other recording mediums will probably exist.
5. In 100 years, we'll probably all be dead, and not give a **** about blank DVD lifespans.

DVD is a perfect size for DVD-Video, photos, music, and documents. Because 4.38gb is small compared to huge drives, it can seem tedious. So only use it for really important data/video. Use larger disks for larger backups. Duplicate everything in triplicate.

/done

I did everything that was recommended by you friend and thanks for the help.

1 I used DVD-R 16x Verbatim AZO (ID: MCC 03RG20) burned in 6x with ImgBurn in Liteon drive iHAS122 F firmware EL06

2 this error test after the burn you mentioned is the ScanDisc>Read Test of Nero DiscSpeed 5 or another? I tested read test nero discspeed 5 after burning and all disks were 100% good * I do not know I did not test jitter, PIE, PIF I have to worry about not having done this test jitter, pie, pif? I only have one Liteon iHAS122 dvd drive F firmware EL06

3 how many years at the most can I test the disks so I do not lose any files? 1 year is too early?

4 jitter, PIE, PIF is a test to be done soon after burning the disc or after years?

I predict a smurf turning red........Ho ho Ho [;^)]

Why did you delete my question? sorry I thought of new questions but I can not edit the previous question

For Lordsmurf friend: Is that right or wrong?
1) Burned in 6x soft=imgburn drive=liteon iHAS122 F Firmware EL06 DVD-R 16x media=Verbatim AZO 16x MCC RG20 and immediately tested Nero DiscSpeed ​​5> Scandisc> read test surface 100% good (I did not test jitter, pie, pif, po), I saved the disc in black dvd case and I stored it The disk without use, after one or two or 3 years I will test jitter, pie, pif, po to see the situation of the disk, jitter, pie, pif, po can be bad immediately after burning?

2) For preservation and integrity of the files, the jitter, pie, pif, po tests have to be run immediately after burning the dvd-r disk or these tests should be run after one or two or three years after burning? After burning I only tested read test surface using nero discspeed 5 and 100% good

3) If after one or two or three years of burned DVD-R this disc is slightly degraded it is possible to make future forecast of how many years the disc will still keep the files in good condition still stored in the same location and the same conditions? If it will last 15 will arrive in 30 years?

4) In my case I burned the DVD-R 16x Verbatim AZO MCC03RG20 at 6x speed in the IMGBURN drive is liteon iHAS122 F Firmware EL06, you said that 6x is bad for DVD-R 16x so I have to worry about this burning in 6x? The disk passed 100% good on the read test surface of nero discspeed 5 but I have this doubt

I'm getting irritated now. No more questions this year. I'm too busy for this.

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